tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9170261917486213112.post2103722589579863921..comments2024-01-22T09:45:29.790+01:00Comments on Racing Rules of Sailing - Look to Windward: Fact Finding FridayJoshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10346870418220762709noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9170261917486213112.post-47718445746226493412012-06-26T15:14:57.280+02:002012-06-26T15:14:57.280+02:00Mistake not rule 13,14,18.1 but 18.3 Orange have a...Mistake not rule 13,14,18.1 but 18.3 Orange have a rightAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9170261917486213112.post-73679874714452911232009-03-02T13:13:00.000+01:002009-03-02T13:13:00.000+01:00I agree that Purple changes course to avoid contac...I agree that Purple changes course to avoid contact with Orange before Orange passes HTW. Orange breaks rule 10.<BR/><BR/>I also agree that rule 18.3 applies from when Orange passes HTW. Rule 18.3 does two things:<BR/><BR/>1) 'switches off' any entitlement Orange could have to mark-room: this is not something Orange can 'break' (any more than she can 'break rule 18.1); and<BR/><BR/>2) creates obligations on Orange (not sail Purple above close hauled, give Purple mark-room inside) that Orange can 'break'.<BR/><BR/>Until Orange passes HTW, rule 18.1 switches off all of rule 18, Orange breaks rule 10, and can have no exoneration.<BR/><BR/>While Orange is passing from head to wind to close hauled on her new tack, she is subject to rule 13. While Orange is changing from HTW to close hauled, Purple cannot bear away to her course around the mark, and must remain above close hauled, so Orange breaks rule 13 and rule 18.3<BR/><BR/>Interesting to work through rule 18.3.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9170261917486213112.post-18846617534580219982009-03-02T00:44:00.000+01:002009-03-02T00:44:00.000+01:00hello,may I add the following to the facts found f...hello,<BR/>may I add the following to the facts found from Gondy:<BR/><BR/>Doesn't rule 18.3 kick in as soon as Orange changes her tack, e.g. was passing HTW? And as there was no contact, the rules broken were just 13 and 18.3(a)? IMHO a boat cann't break rule 18.1.<BR/><BR/>I also think that Orange hadn't reached HTW when Blue started to luff to avoid her. In this case Orange broke rule 10 in first place.<BR/><BR/>FritzAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9170261917486213112.post-11131772187936312162009-02-25T07:14:00.000+01:002009-02-25T07:14:00.000+01:00Jos and Brass Having just written the exam recentl...Jos and Brass<BR/> <BR/>Having just written the exam recently, I know that I did not pass all of the parts , but I think 2 of the 3. Will to join the group.<BR/> <BR/>One word of interest is know the rule frontwards and backwards, and start writing. I found with the computer is was just to easy to get into a rhythm when answering questions. Different when writing them.<BR/> <BR/>Robert<BR/>Fort Saskatchewan<BR/>Alberta<BR/>CanadaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9170261917486213112.post-70722335966792175352009-02-25T01:02:00.000+01:002009-02-25T01:02:00.000+01:00I don't think finding as a fact that a boat did no...I don't think finding as a fact that a boat did not take penalty turns (or another penalty) is necessary, if the boat never alleged that fact in defending the protest.<BR/><BR/>The Olympic protests, here:<BR/><BR/>http://members.home.nl/jmspijkerman/BLOGFiles/ISAF/Olympic%20Protests%202008%20V5%20W2003.doc<BR/><BR/>usually made such a finding, but I cannot see that it adds any value.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9170261917486213112.post-6194687937586954192009-02-24T23:46:00.000+01:002009-02-24T23:46:00.000+01:00Gondy,Terrific layout and structure.I hope everyon...Gondy,<BR/><BR/>Terrific layout and structure.<BR/><BR/>I hope everyone responding to the problems does likewise.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9170261917486213112.post-89687428545922681452009-02-24T21:59:00.000+01:002009-02-24T21:59:00.000+01:00Do you need to make a "fact found" that orange did...Do you need to make a "fact found" that orange did not take penalty turn(s) ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9170261917486213112.post-74519648235899652142009-02-24T21:44:00.000+01:002009-02-24T21:44:00.000+01:00How about you give the Royal Snooty Nose problem a...How about you give the Royal Snooty Nose problem a try while you're waiting?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9170261917486213112.post-91243819172687695522009-02-24T21:42:00.001+01:002009-02-24T21:42:00.001+01:00I don't get it. Did we start?I don't get it. Did we start?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9170261917486213112.post-79226959561498401412009-02-24T21:42:00.000+01:002009-02-24T21:42:00.000+01:00Hey, Good to see you, but I'm supposed to be writi...Hey, Good to see you, but <I><B>I'm</B></I> supposed to be writing the fiction in this series. It's not Friday yet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9170261917486213112.post-56638878863903662962009-02-24T12:14:00.000+01:002009-02-24T12:14:00.000+01:00FACTS FOUND:1. The protest is valid.2. Approachi...<B>FACTS FOUND:</B><BR/>1. The protest is valid.<BR/>2. Approaching the windward mark to be rounded to port ORANGE was close hauled on port tack; PURPLE was close hauled on starboard tack and was fetching the mark.<BR/>3. About two boats lengths apart and on a collision course ORANGE hailed for "mark room" and PURPLE responded by hailing "starboard boat fetching the mark".<BR/>4. ORANGE commenced her tack onto the starboard layline about one boat length from PURPLE.<BR/>5. While ORANGE was tacking PURPLE was forced to alter course above close hauled to avoid immediate contact with ORANGE.<BR/>6. There was no contact.<BR/><BR/><B>CONCLUSION:</B><BR/>ORANGE was not entitled to mark room as rule 18 does not apply between boats on opposite tacks on a beat to windward.<BR/><BR/>While tacking ORANGE failed to keep clear of PURPLE who was the starboard tack, right of way boat.<BR/><BR/>PURPLE took reasonable action to avoid contact with ORANGE when it became clear that ORANGE was not keeping clear.<BR/><BR/><B>RULES APPLICABLE:</B><BR/>Rules 13, 14, 18.1.<BR/><BR/><B>DECISION:</B><BR/>ORANGE is to be scored DSQ.Gondyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17580803222934024735noreply@blogger.com