tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9170261917486213112.post8385285609251762429..comments2024-01-22T09:45:29.790+01:00Comments on Racing Rules of Sailing - Look to Windward: Extreme Sailing Series; Almeria 2010, Day 1Joshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10346870418220762709noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9170261917486213112.post-24305460624695676292010-10-11T01:05:34.955+02:002010-10-11T01:05:34.955+02:00Assuming that the starting signal was about @2.5
...Assuming that the starting signal was about @2.5<br /><br />I agree with Anon. @6, B is NOT sailing 'towards the ... starting line': she may be sailing parallel, but not towards. B does not break rule 21.1.<br /><br />I don't think rule 17 would affect this. I don't think that it could be said that B's proper course to return to start correctly have been to gybe before tacking back, especially in a cat which would scoot off to leeward. Therefore B's proper course, in the absence of G, is to luff to close hauled and possibly to tack. B is not sailing above her proper course. B does not break rule 17.<br /><br />I have some questions about Jos' response.<br /><br />Why do you discuss B's right to luff up towards the starting line in terms of whether she is on a beam reach or not? The quesion, as I understand it is whether or not she is sailing 'towards' the starting line: her point of sailing is irrelevant.<br /><br />As I read the diagram, the pin is a little 'north' of the RC Boat, so B, sailing 'due west' is still sailing away from the starting line. B does not start sailing towards the starting line until @8.<br /><br />I seriously disagree that a boat changing course to return, or returning to start under rule 21.1 is taking a penalty. The heading to rule 21 is in three distinct parts, separated by semicolons: Starting errors; taking penalties; moving astern. These three parts of the heading exactly correspond to the three separate paragraphs of the rule. The only 'penalties' imposed in relation to starting are under I, Z and Black Flags in rule 30. Otherwise, a boat may approach the starting line from any direction at any time.Brassnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9170261917486213112.post-86765251746715348042010-10-10T09:28:51.531+02:002010-10-10T09:28:51.531+02:00I should have included that this sailing is done u...I should have included that this sailing is done under addendum Q.<br />In normal fleet racing Blue can luff up to a beam reach course before she's returning to start, even with a 17 restriction. For her that is her proper course. If Green would have not been there she would luff up also.<br />But under addendum Q she can only do that if she has no 17 restriction. It hinges on the fact that returning to start is a penalty - look at the title this rule is under. And like in Appendix C, you are not sailing a proper course when you take a penalty. So with a rule 17 restriction Blue can not luff at all.<br /><br />I admit we figured this out in the debrief. Like Anon I was watching the angle of Blue to determine if she was returning or not. <br />We gave a Green flagJoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10346870418220762709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9170261917486213112.post-35448903505372973752010-10-09T13:51:09.973+02:002010-10-09T13:51:09.973+02:001 Green flag. Although Blue may have ti return to ...1 Green flag. Although Blue may have ti return to start she is not returning until she is sailing a course towards the prestart side of the line. Until then other rules apply and Green as windwar dboat should keep clear as she does.<br />2Yes If 17 applies then Blue might be adjudged to be sailing above her proper course.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com