A question on my shelf from Rick. It is a continuation on the previous LTW Q&A (56), as it also involves two boats about to start;
30+ seconds before the start two boats overlapped with the windward boat being slightly forward are being pushed above the committee boat.
As time winds down to the start both boats are behind and to windward of the committee boat when the starting gun goes off. So the question is at this point does the leeward boat have to give room to the windward boat?
Both boats were overlapped and stayed overlapped before entering with-in three boat lengths of the committee boat. This question was presented to three international judges and there conclusion after three days of thinking about it was "good question".
I brought to there attention the 12 metre race start saying that after the gun the committee boat is just another mark of the course and overlap rules apply???
Thanks for thinking about this.
I’ve Emailed Rick to make sure about the situation: We agreed on this picture:
According to Rick’s statement the gun goes off approximately in position 3.
In order to answer Rick’s question I had a look in the Case and Call books – always a good place to start – and found Call UMP 13.
In that Call three situations are pictured with the question:
Blue and Yellow are approaching the committee boat end of the starting line. How do the umpires decide if they are approaching a starting mark to start?
The answer that the call-book provides:
In each of Diagrams a, b, and c the boats may be approaching a starting mark to start. The umpires will use the speed and course of the boats in the prevailing conditions and the time remaining before the starting signal to decide if they are approaching a starting mark to start.
In light of this I would decide that in position 3 both boats are approaching a starting mark to start. In position 2 they are still sailing above the line, but in position 3 they are clearly pointing toward the pre-start side.
Does rule 18 apply?
Looking at the rulebook we find in the preamble of section C:
Section C rules do not apply at a starting mark surrounded by navigable water or at its anchor line from the time boats are approaching them to start until they have passed them. When rule 20 applies, rules 18 and 19 do not.
Whether rule 18 is on or off, does not depend on whether the starting gun has been given or not. Rule 18 (and 19&20) is off until they have passed the starting marks. That happens in position 6.
So, in my opinion, the Leeward Green boat does NOT have to give room to the Windward Blue boat. If Green protested I would DSQ Blue.
Blue is in fact “Barging”
Once she has sailed to position 4 Green cannot luff anymore. That would break 16.1 and probably rule 14. But Blue is not entitled to room – nor under rule 18 or rule 19.