Wednesday 22 October 2008

Seminar Preparations | 8

Yesterday I asked you to have a look at how you would change the rules in the Sailing Instructions. Before you do that, have a look at 86.1 to see if you are allowed to do so. Something I also forgot, when I was asked this question.

In rule 86.1 it is specifically stated that rules in part 2 may not be changed in the sailing instructions. Changing rule 14 is only allowed as an experiment and you need permission of ISAF or your MNA to do that, for an event.

I do understand the need to satisfy a sponsor. And understand his interest in keeping his boats in one piece, undamaged. But changing the rules to accomplish that, is not permitted.
Rule 14 is designed to put blame where it is appropriate. ANY damage - even a nicked gel-coat - can be penalized. The rule does not mention 'serious' like in 44.1.

Mike B's solution is one I could live with to 'scare' sailors to behave in sponsored boats. But remember, they have already had to pay a damage deposit of a couple of hundred Euros.
Perhaps it would be better to increase that, instead of changing RRS 14

If you decide to change rule regardless, I suspect that an attentive sailor will be able to get it overturned on appeal.....

Today's question is about scoring. Below You'll find a table with scoring of ten boats
These ten have competed in the medal race. Before that they all were in a qualifying races in two groups. That is why some boats have the same score and other scores are missing:

Sail# R1 R2 R3 R4 R5 R6 R7
18 3 6 8 6 6 2 6
216 6 8 7 3 6 5 2
892 12 9 9 8 4 3 10
908 12 11 5 2 4 9 7
1013 5 1 25(dnf) 4 2 5 8
1045 8 5 14 12(dip) 3 10 3
1064 25(bfd) 1 6 5 5 4 9
1068 10 3 4 6 7 2 5
1102 1 3 1 7 5 4 1
1103 2 2 2 10 8 9 4

Please, put them in order: 1st through 10th as prescribed by the RRS.


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5 comments:

  1. BAsed upon the RRS and medal race is worth double points and ties in points are broken based upon their position in the medal race here is what I came up with.
    Sail# Position
    1102 1
    1013 2
    216 3
    1103 4
    1045 5
    1068 6
    1064 7
    18 8
    908 9
    892 10

    Robert

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  2. I do not understand DIP and is the medal race double scoring?

    Mike B

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  3. DIP stands for Discretionary Penalty, and yes, medal race is double scoring.

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  4. I know where I went wrong. Should have gotten out my pencil vs. using excel.

    Robert

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  5. Looks like I'm nitpicking, but isn't that what judges do?

    Jos' question stated

    "Below You'll find a table with scoring of ten boats" and

    "Please, put them in order: 1st through 10th as prescribed by the RRS"

    Nowhere in the RRS, much less Appendix A is there any mention of 'medal race' Therefore if scoring is 'as prescribed by the RRS' there should be no double points for 'medal race'.

    Even if this was the case, the numbers shown for Race 7 (which, I assume is meant to be the 'medal race') are, according to Jos the 'scores' for the race, therefore the doubling has, by Jos' words already been applied.

    My answer is

    Sail# Total Drop Final
    1102 22 7 15
    1013 50 25 25
    1103 37 10 27
    1068 37 10 27
    18 37 8 29
    216 37 8 29
    1064 55 25 30
    908 50 12 38
    1045 55 14 41
    892 55 12 43

    Note: 'Ordinary' BFD is excludable. Tie between 1103 and 1068 resolved in favour of 1103 because neither has any first places, 1068 has only one 2nd place and 1103 has three second places.

    Brass

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